Introducción

Estoy en Reddit con Kyle Wiens, CEO de iFixit, hablando sobre la MacBook con Pantalla de Retina!

Aquí está: La "Elegida" de las MacBook Pros. Si bien otras MBP fueron dotadas con solo las actualizaciones estándar, a este modelo en particular le fue una pantalla de Retina, un perfil más delgado, dos puertos Thunderbolt, una puerto HDMI de tamaño completo y ventiladores menos molestos. Apple afirma que esta es "la mejor computadora que Apple ha hecho hasta ahora"

Apple ya ha soltado la lengua sobre cómo se ve esta MacBook Pro por dentro, pero no estamos convencidos. Únete a nosotros para descubrir lo que es tan significativo en esta MacBook Pro especial.

¿ No tuviste suficiente con este desmontaje? ¿Tienes un apetito insaciable de aparatos? ¿Quieres saber más que tus amigos geek y saber más de desmontajes tan pronto como aparezcan? Sigue iFixit en Twitter para enterarte de las actualizaciones más recientes.

Este desmontaje no es una guía de reparación. Para reparar tu MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Mid 2012, utiliza nuestros manuales de servicio .

Los entusiastas de Mac no tienen que esperar más para ver lo que hay dentro de la nueva MacBook Pro.
  • Los entusiastas de Mac no tienen que esperar más para ver lo que hay dentro de la nueva MacBook Pro.

  • ¿Qué es lo que tiene a todo el mundo tecnológico alborotado?

    • Pantalla de retina de 15.4" con luz posterior LED con IPS con una resolución de 2880 x 1800 a 220 ppi.

    • Procesador Intel Ivy Bridge Core-i7 con Turbo Boost e Intel HD Graphics 4000

    • 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3L RAM

    • NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M con 1 GB de GDDR5 VRAM

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Una rápida inspección del lado de la MacBook Pro con Pantalla de Retina nos revela un montón de actualizaciones:
  • Una rápida inspección del lado de la MacBook Pro con Pantalla de Retina nos revela un montón de actualizaciones:

    • MagSafe 2

    • Dos (!) puertos Thunderbolt

    • El primero de dos puertos USB 3.0

    • Una toma de auriculares estándar de 3.5 mm (bu)

  • El lado derecho de la Macbook alberga una lector de tarjeta SD, el segundo puerto USB 3.0 y una salida HDMI de tamaño completo.

  • Ambos lados presentan conductos de inducción de aire para un nuevo sistema de enfriamiento—pero ampliaremos eso después.

Any sign of a security slot? Even if I was sitting nearby not using it, I'd be terrified to leave one on a desk unless it could be secured.

junk - Contestar

You say, "A standard 3.5mm headphone jack (boo)". What justifies the "boo" in this case? Missing optical, is my best guess. Does it not support the iPhone style inline headset/volume? Is there some other issue with it?

Owen Imholte - Contestar

No, it's just that it's not new and exciting like the other ports.

David Hodson -

  • El nuevo diseño de ensamblaje de pantalla no dejó lugar para el usual logotipo "MacBook Pro" en el bisel delgado.

  • Sin embargo, hay suficiente espacio para el logotipo en la parte inferior de la computadora. Si nadie te cree que tu computadora es una MacBook Pro real, sólo cógela y dala vuelta.

  • Todas esa actualizaciones le han ganado a esta Pro un nuevo número de modelo: A1398.

    • Adelante y asimila esto por un minuto; Apple finalmente introdujo un nuevo número de modelo de MacBook Pro (Son las pequeñas cosas las que nos hacen felices)

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  • ¿Cómo se ve el logotipo de Apple o ícono de Finder que está hecho de 220 píxeles por pulgada?

    • Un montón de puntos de color medio cuadrados.

  • Dejamos los chistes para otro momento, la resolución de esta pantalla es realmente increíble. No hay duda que el costo para fabricar la pantalla Retina es una gran razón para la etiqueta del precio de unos $2200 de la nueva MacBook Pro.

Is it me or do I see 5 stuck pixels on that small close-up of the screen?

msu320 - Contestar

Yeah, stuck pixels, but not on MB display but in CMOS sensor fo the camera probably ;)

Alex -

  • Amamos un desafío, lo que es una buena noticia, ya que a diferencia de las generaciones previas de MacBook Pros, el MacBook Pro con pantalla de Retina está protegida por los tornillos pentalobe patentados de Apple.

  • Trabajamos sin soltar el aliento mientras nuestro destornillador Pentalobe desprende un montón de destornilladores patentados.

  • Finalmente, estamos dentro.

What size of pentalobe is this?

haloerika - Contestar

It's 1.2.

Btw, where are the 3 longest screw located ?

Roberto Sonzogni - Contestar

What's the deal with the two magnets in the middle of the case, just above the batteries?

Scott Lawrence - Contestar

Hey Scott. Those magnets are used to hold the rear cover close to the body of the MacBook Pro. The screws hold it in place around the perimeter, but the magnets keep the large aluminum panel from acting like a drum, flapping about and such. In the MacBook Air, Apple uses plastic clips to accomplish the same task.

Brett Hartt -

  • La batería nueva pega muy fuerte: 95 Wh a 10.95 V comparada a la del año pasado con diminutos 77.5 Wh.

  • Dos cosas no han cambiado sin embargo: la vida útil de la batería de 7 horas y el molesto recordatorio que Apple no piensa que estás calificado para reparar tu propia batería.

    • Alerta de spoiler: podrían tener razón.

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  • Siempre es una buena idea desconectar la batería cuando destripas tus aparatos.

  • Si bien Apple parece tener una etiqueta extensa de advertencias, olvida mencionar las terribles sacudidas potenciales si no desconectas la batería durante la cirugía del aparato. ¿Es posible que Apple no nos esperaba?

"While Apple seems to have an extensive warning label, it fails to mention potential shocks by failing to disconnect the battery during gadget surgery. Is it possible Apple wasn't expecting us?"

Actually, I think they did. :)

Is that normal that the Model number is not the same in and out of the computer? (A1398 & A1417)

Mr Bob - Contestar

Those are the computer and battery model numbers, respectively. They've done that for a while now.

David Hodson -

  • Buenas noticias. La batería no está más atornillada a la máquina.

  • Malas noticias. Apple eligió usar la temida palabra que empieza con p: pegamento.

  • Vamos a empezar con los componentes más accesibles primero, y luego volver a la batería.

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  • Ahora llegamos a lo que es bueno, comenzando con SSD. Encontramos un módulo de memoria flash de Samsung de 512 GB.

  • Los chips están marcados:

    • Chip controlador SSD de 3 núcleos Samsung S4LJ204X01- la revisión parece ser más nueva que la SSD serie 830.

    • Chips Samsung 213 K9UHGY8U7A 20nm MLC NAND

    • Memoria Cache Samsung 201 K4T263140F 256MB DDR2-800

  • Memoria flash patentada no es algo nuevo de Apple. Es, sin embargo, nuevo en el programa de la MacBook Pro.

This is the same SSD controller used in the Samsung 830. This is a very good thing. I remember seeing a Toshiba SSD module as well which I think uses a Sandforce controller. Performance characteristics are a bit different. I wonder when one is used over the other.

Joon Park - Contestar

Is this SSD compatible with the one in Air 2012?

Thanks.

Jon - Contestar

The chip number on the RAM is K4T2G314QF-MCF7 (Q, not 0, as noted in Step 10)

These part numbers also noted in my news post here (linking back to you guys):

http://www.pcper.com/news/Storage/New-Ma...

My performance review of the Samsung 830 Series, for those interested:

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Sam...

I'm thrilled to see such a great controller in the new MacBooks!

Best,

Allyn Malventano

Storage Editor, PC Perspective

Allyn Malventano - Contestar

The SSD card is using a standard mSATA connector and layout. The size of the board is proprietary, but the pinout and the signal standards are maintained.

So, it's possible to build a replacement SSD for the macbook pro Retina. I expect our friends at OWC and others to start making 512, 768 and 1024GB upgrades available. Perhaps faster, since they have shown they have access to the same high-speed controllers and chips.

-M

Martin Bogomolni - Contestar

Is it confirm that the physical size of SSD in R-MBP is the same as MBA? If so, that will be a good news for replace or upgrade.

Tembo Hu -

K9UHGY8U7A is the same 25nm MLC NAND as in the Samsung 830.

As others noted, the controller is also identical to the 830 (The MCX). Not a newer revision.

Samsung new NAND in the 840 is 21nm. There is no such thing as 20nm NAND from Samsung.

The 21nm MLC is K9HFGY8U5A

and the TLC is K9CFGY8U5A

Just want to avoid spreading wrong information

Anh Man Tran - Contestar

I have chatted with two different reps, online, both of whom say that the just-released Retina MacBook Pros come with solid state drives that are soldered onto the motherboard. They also say it can be repaired by Mac, but they avoided the question of upgrading or replacing (if it's beyond in-place repair). Can somebody please look into this?

bob - Contestar

  • Al principio, la tarjeta AirPort en la MacBook Pro se ve muy parecida a la que sacamos de la MacBook Air de Mediados de 2012.

  • Una inspección más de cerca, sin embargo, nos revela:

    • Solución inalámbrica de doble banda, chip único 802.11n Broadcom BCM4331

    • Broadcom BCM20702 único chip Bluetooth 4.0 HCI solución con soporte Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE)

      • Skyworks WiFi Block

      • 2xSE5515 Dual-Band FrontEnds

      • Amplificador de potencia de transmisión 2.4GHz SE2598L y 5GHz SE5019T

      • Amplificador de bajo ruido de recepción 2.4GHz SKY65405 y 5GHz SKY65404

@mr2incredible Is this upgradable to AC WiFi?

Padraic Hoselton - Contestar

  • Un soporte, algunos cables de antena, algunos pocos tornillos, y finalmente llegamos a la crème de la crème, el ventilador con aletas con espacio asimétrico.

    • Saltamos cuando llamamos al ventilador dentro de la MacBook Air 13" de mediados de 2012 "asimétrico", pero si lo comparamos con el ventilador dentro de la MacBook Pro, el ventilador de la Air es definitivamente más periódico.

  • Teóricamente, la asimetría propaga el sonido producido en múltiples frecuencias, haciéndolo menos evidente.

  • Este ventilador fue mencionado en casi toda la prensa de MacBook Pro con Pantalla de Retina. Estamos sorprendidos de toda la atención que recibe este pequeño cambio de espacio entre las aletas. Sin embargo, es prueba de la atención que Apple pone en detalles menores pasados por alto por el resto de la industria, para la comodidad del usuario final.

  • Línea nueva.

They used to do the same thing with radiator fans in cars (back when they were belt driven). Not so much for noise reduction, but to reduce vibration (which is pretty much the same thing when you think about it).

ian351c - Contestar

  • Lo próximo es la placa E/S que alberga uno de los dos puertos USB 3.0 y el lector de la tarjeta SD.

    • Nos encanta que esta Pro tenga puertos USB 3.0 en ambos lados. Por fin, resolvimos problemas de cable que son 31.75 cm demasiado cortos y memorias USB, dongles de ratón, juguetes USB que son un centímetro más ancho

  • La placa E/S también alberga un Broadcom BCM57100 series Gigabit Ethernet + controlador de lector de tarjeta de memoria. El controlador Ethernet es accesible a través del adaptador Thunderbol vendido de manera separada.

  • Repetidor de Limpieza de Fluctuación HDMI 3 Gbps Parade Tech PS8401A

"The Ethernet controller is accessible through the separately-sold Thunderbolt adapter."

Do you really think this is the controller that is accessed with the thunderbold adapter?

First: it is on the other side of the computer...

Second: the adapter itself has the ethernet controller on board?!

So what do you mean by that statement?

derbroti - Contestar

I would also like to know whether the onboard ethernet is really wired up? It identifies as 14e4:16a3 "Broadcom Corporation Device 16a3 (rev 21)". I do not think it is used in the Thunderbolt ethernet adaptor, since the thunderbolt adaptor has its own onboard BCM57762 ethernet controller. So what is the point of including ethernet in the Macbook itself? Can it be used?

Chris -

this might sound dumb at first but i think it actually works with the airport wireless NIC somehow. (en0)

tjt263 -

I realize that this is like 3 years too late but its’s for the 10gbps (sort of) point-to-point ethernet connection you can make by connecting two Macs together via thunderbolt.

Ted -

  • La próxima parte en salir es el procesador y disipador de calor GPU y el ensamblaje de salida de aire.

    • Al empujar el aire a través de una restricción antes de que llegue a los conductos de ventilación más externos, introduces una caída de presión adicional (debido al esfuerzo cortante en las paredes) que acelera el aire y lo empuja hacia afuera de la computadora más rápido.

  • Con este último obstáculo fuera de camino, la placa lógica sale sin bastante esfuerzo.

Are you sure that isn't an Apple proprietary memory daughterboard connector between the CPU and the top row of RAM chips?? Seems to me that would be an easy way to upgrade from 8GB to 16GB of RAM...

emoon1 - Contestar

interesting, can you elaborate on this?

tjt263 -

  • Los principales jugadores en la parte frontal de la placa lógica incluyen:

    • Gráfica NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M

    • Intel Core-i7 3720QM Procesador de 2,6 GHz (Turbo Boost hasta 3,6 GHz) con Intel Graphics HD 4000.

    • Chipset Intel BD82HM77 SLJBC Platform Controller Hub

    • Hynix H5TC2G83CFR 512MB DDR3L SDRAM (Para hacer un total de 8GB)

    • Controladora Thunderbolt Intel DSL3510L

So I guess there is no easy way to upgrade the RAM...

You cannot swap new/bigger memory bars.

Can you confirm?

Thank you!

Francois Massart - Contestar

You're stuck with the RAM you buy. There's no way to upgrade the RAM unless you switch out the entire logic board.

Miroslav Djuric -

Just some random ad…

Aiden Baker - Contestar

  • La parte trasera de la placa lógica en detalle:

    • Hynix H5TC2G83CFR DDR3L SDRAM 2Gbit 1600MHz chips

    • Chips de memoria Hynix H5GQ2H24AFR - 2.5GHz 2Gbit GDDR5

    • Texas Instruments Stellaris LM4FS1AH microcontrolador con núcleo ARM integrado.

    • Renesas R4F2113 H8S series CISC MCU

    • Controlador de potencia específico de Apple IMVP7 CPU/GPU Maxim MAX15119

    • Semiconductor Cypress CY8C24794-24L - a SoC programable

Notice that the Lattice FPGA used in previous MBP models to switch the LVDS display signal between the two GPUs ("GMUX") has been replaced with a TI HD3SS212 DisplayPort switch.

dfskjfksa - Contestar

  • La toma de auricular se mantiene en su lugar cómodamente, pero eso no nos detiene.

  • Aquí es donde enchufas tus auriculares o altavoces. No estamos seguros el por qué no te gustaría compartir la magia del sistema de altavoces especialmente diseñado de Apple.

Any chance that it can be used as Line In as well? or only using the iPhone headphones mic (4th position of Tip, Ring, Sleeve, Sheath) And optical in and out?

Will Mayo - Contestar

yes i believe it doubles as a line in/line out

tjt263 -

  • y así salen los altavoces.

  • Apple sostiene que sus altavoces personalizados sacan provecho de "cada milímetro cúbico" dentro de la MacBook Pro. Por $2200, esperábamos que no sean de inicio automático.

  • Los micrófonos Knowles MEMS de puerto de base doble DXECO2 (con Trabajo ID/Números de Cintas) yace debajo (¿o encima?) del ensamblaje de altavoz izquierdo. Utilizan un "algoritmo conformación de haces adaptable" para cancelar el ruido de fondo y facilitar las llamadas via Skype y mejorar el funcionamiento de reconocimiento de habla.

Does the audio port have optical digital?

Benjamin Green - Contestar

From the Apple specs sheet neither this new MacBook Pro or the new MacBook Air have digital outputs. Just looking at the connector in the disassembly photos it appears to be true - Sorry

Dan -

  • El ensamblaje de pantalla está sujetado por unos pocos cables y unos tornillos robustos de bisagra de pantalla, pero no por mucho tiempo.

  • La pantalla LCD de Retina está ubicada en el ensamblaje de pantalla, y no se va a ningún lado. Si cualquier cosa de la pantalla falla, tendrás que reemplazar todo el ensamblaje.

    • No olvides que el ensamblaje de pantalla también incluye la Cámara FaceTime, antenas WiFi y antenas Bluetooth.

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  • Alguien realmente no quería que saliera la batería de la caja superior de la MacBook Pro.

  • Intentamos valientemente con nuestra Regla de Metal de 6 Pulgadas de iFixitde liberar la batería de sus confines de aluminio, sin ningún éxito. Mejor que arriesgar perforar la celda de batería de polímero de litio, dejamos la fuente de energía en su lugar.

  • Para complicar más las cosas, el cable del trackpad yace por debajo de la batería. Si intentamos levantar la batería de la caja superior, se podría fácilmente dañar el frágil cable, lo que estaría muy mal.

What about heat to free the batteries? Since the case is metal, what are the thoughts of gradually heating the case, until the glue begins to loosen up? Naturally, you'd want to do that with as much other stuff removed as possible.

I think the key would be a precision heating of the case (not just hitting the batteries with a heat gun), learning what the meltio0ng point is and not going a degree above that!

John Rees - Contestar

Are the battery modules glued to some kind of common rack, which can be then taken out as a whole or are they individually glued to enclosures frame?

Michael Seydl - Contestar

The warning label for the batteries says 100 °C. I bet the glue is hot melt and it turns to butter at some temperature well below that. Apple offers battery replacement service so there has to be some reliable way to un-bond the glue.

I bet at about medium well (160 °F or 71 °C) the batteries fall right out.

Dave Adams - Contestar

Have your tried a swab of rubbing alcohol on the glue holding the batteries? If it's hot melt adhesive, they'll cleanly pop right off.

Phil Burgess - Contestar

Suggest trying "Undu" - scrapbooker's adhesive remover. Brilliant stuff. (chemical = hexane) Dissolves the pressure sensitive adhesive glue bond, then evaporates leaving the adhesive still sticky for reuse. I have used it on iPhone battery with success.

B Louis - Contestar

So... while I generally agree with everything said here, I wanted to address the battery issue. I've now stripped out 7x highly used and dying, or damaged batteries without damaging them. I use a 1-1/2" wide very stiff (with a dull front edge, similar to this: http://www.walmart.com/ip/32522800?wmlsp...). I them wrap the entire blade in electrical tape to soften edges. Then, coming at various strategic angles (depends on which portion of the battery I'm removing), I go under each. From a top down view with the battery at the bottom and the logic board on top, the two middle portions are the most difficult (with the middle one on the right being the trickiest) to remove. Leave the two middle portions for last... for one, that's where the trackpad ribbon/trackpad guard is, but also simply because u can go underneath the outside portions to get to those (once you've gotten the outside portions lifted away).

jcarter - Contestar

  • Puntaje de Reparabilidad de la MacBook Pro con Pantalla de Retina 15" de Mediados de 2012: 1 de 10 (10 es lo más fácil de reparar).

  • Los tornillos pentalobe patentados previenen el acceso a la parte interior.

  • Como en la MacBook Air, la RAM está soldada a la placa lógica. Consigue la máxima a 16GB ahora, o calla para siempre—no puedes agregar más memoria.

  • La SSD patentada no se puede mejorar tampoco (aun), ya que es similar pero no idéntica a la que tiene la Air. Es una tarjeta hija separada, y esperamos que podamos ofrecer una actualización en el futuro cercano.

  • La batería de polímero de litio está pegada en vez de atornillada en la caja, lo que aumente las chances de que se rompa durante el desmontaje. La batería también cubre el cable del trackpad, que tremendamente aumenta la chance de que el usuario corte el cable en el proceso de remover la batería.

  • El ensamblaje de pantalla está fusionado y no hay vidrio que lo proteja. Si algo falla dentro de la pantalla alguna vez, tendrás que reemplazar el ensamblaje entero completamente costoso.

"MacBook Air 13" Mid 2012 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair)." Macbook Pro you mean?

Jason Martin - Contestar

Sorry, it was a late night.

Miroslav Djuric -

It’s 15 inches, isn’t it?

Frank - Contestar

it's MacBook PRO, and it's 15'' isn't it?

Tyler - Contestar

I would argue against the last point "display assembly is completely fused".

Replacing parts with any laptop usually requires a cheap alternative. For he majority of time. It is the RAM, Harddrive, etc.

You rarely see screens or monitors replaced and when they are replaced you dont just replace the panel you replace the entire screen.

For DDR ram, in order to run at 1600MHz a better design is to ditch SO-DIMM modules.

FACT: You can run any RAM at a faster Hz when it is directly soldered to the board.

asd1815dev - Contestar

Can you tell whether there is space and a way to fit a sata drive in for additional disk space?

Tay Zombulovich - Contestar

If you take out one of the fans or the battery cells, sure. I wouldn't suggest doing either of those, though.

David Hodson -

So the glass covering the display is gone? Can the writers please confirm?

A feature of the last few MBPs was the glass display, this is now gone?

On a side note, I wish random comments like "I wouldn't recommend this to anyone" can be deleted. NO ONE really cares and is not asking for "Joe" off the Internet for his reccomendation.

Surge - Contestar

SSD Upgrade: Check out OWC's Aura/Aura Pro 6G... or Transcends Jetdrive 720 (with a 960GB option!!)

Applecare: Yes, when buying the retina (especially if like myself... you have the top end models (2.7/2.8GHz i7 16GB DDR3 768GB SSD), you should invest in applecare. Buy it on ebay if you want to save a bit of cash. I got my first 15" retina applecare on ebay (regularly $349) for $245. Granted, that was some time ago. But still, saved $100. And my macbook pro retina was $3400. Well worth the $249, even if just to get the parts for free. LOL. I have since had 4x retina displays replaced because of image ghosting, and 2x replaced because of logic board issues (I own 75+ macs for work). Applecare is worth it for expensive machines. Even if you work on them yourself and are a certified mac tech like me. Still worth it.

jcarter - Contestar

In my opinion the MBP retina 15 is as close as it gets to be a perfect product. I've got the 2012 maxed out version, and still have no need for any upgrade, the 16GB RAM is still way more than necessary, the i7 still screams, and I still have more than 100GB free space.

At the time I bought it, I was looking for desktopclass performance on the go, plenty of batterylife, 15" Screen and <= 2kg to carry around. It can do all that, which is very impressive to have the paradox of light, but powerfull + powerfull but, good batterylife.

And thats where realtiy hits. If you would now want to merge these two impressive feats with repairabilty it will get thick and heavier. There is no Hattrick possible here, you can make two out of three work, but one is the sacrifice fo another.

And if you dont need any uprades in 3 years or more, than it doesnt have to be repairable, opt for Apple Care and youre good to go, and the one and only thing that needs replacement down the road, the SSD, is replaceable.

JMI - Contestar

I agree. I didn't get a maxed out version but mine still runs so fast and the batteries are still like new in my opinion. I feel no need to buy a new Mac yet, I don't even think the Mac seems any slower than it did the day I bought it, even with all of the new OS versions. I use Final Cut Pro to edit multiple 1080p/60 streams and it handles everything. The photo of the Mac with the back off looks like a work of art lol. I hate to sound like a hardcore Apple fanboy but its really good-looking inside and out. This was my first Mac and I can't imagine going back to Windows now.

chris bizzelle -

I felt just like @cxk (chris bizzelle) until I upgraded from Mavericks (10.9) to High Sierra (10.13). Yes, I waited that long, because everything Just Worked. But eventually some of my apps were no longer supported and Homebrew was not supported.

What a difference. Instead of 1-3GB free physmem under my normal app load, I’m at roughly 300MB. Mail.app takes literally 500 to 800 milliseconds to respond to keypresses requesting things like “delete a message” or “display next message". Instead of ~250 entries in the process table for an idle, no-Apps open state, I’m closer to 300.

This is clearly not a criticism of the 2012 MBP, but rather of Apple for making a wonderful machine slow by releasing a bloated, poor-quality macOS release. They ought to be ashamed. If I could find a copy of the 10.11 installer, I’d seriously consider going back to an older release. Oh I know — they want me to buy a new laptop instead! I like the features of my current MacBook Pro, thank you very much. Grr.

Chris Johnson - Contestar

I did the same - upgraded from Mavericks to High Sierra - and was also wondering about the low free memory (also about 300 MB). I think it’s because of “inactive” memory. When you close an app, OS doesn’t free up the memory that it used, but rather marks it as inactive, so that if you relaunch the app it will load faster. If another app needs memory, but there is not enough free memory, it will free up some inactive memory to make it availble for the newly launched app.

Found a question about it on stackexchange: https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/4323

Btw, if you use iStat Menus, you can check a box (in iStat Menus 6.0 at least) under the memory section “Hide inactive memory” and it will show only “wired” and “active” memory used, so you get a better feeling of how much memory is available.

Joakim Borregaard -

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You haven't said, Can you see who makes the display?

Igal Neshto - Contestar

I too would like to know more about the panel.

Nicholas Shanks -

ifixit probably afraid of damaging the pricey display.

User ONE -

what about the keyboard? not replaceable?

xkiller213 - Contestar

no trace of LIQUID METAL share?????

12345 - Contestar

Apple is ridiculous.

Why continue in this way, far from the idea to be near his customer.

Glue the battery, pffff, can not be explain ....

I will keep away from this computer.

Sorry to see this ....

Mathieu Vilaplana - Contestar

"You'll be missed!" -- Randal

no way -

Please post information regarding the FaceTime HD webcamera. Thanks!

Martin - Contestar

I don't particularly see how people can say that they couldn't recommend this to anyone, unless regardless of what it's repairability rating was, you weren't going to recommend it to anyone either way. I mean, most people have, IDK, a mom or a girlfriend, or even just a friend that is comfortable with neither doing repairs and replacements themselves or having you do it? I replaced the memory in my MBP before I ever turned it on, and changed out the HD after I was set up, but I'd be lying if I said everyone I knew was like me. Even myself, if I'm shelling out $2200 (You can max out at $3500ish :O) on a computer I'd probably invest in Apple Care.

Anyways, of course I AM not excited about anything that would be hard to replace, but only because of my own preferences and a few people I know. I know more people than not whom won't be affected by that.

driftej20 - Contestar

While I agree that these things don't make me want to avoid this machine, I'm not sure the point of suggesting that one's "mom or girlfriend" are the intended audience because they're not technically savvy.

In a world where Linus Torvalds runs a Macbook Air, it's extremely condescending to suggest that a Macbook Pro, due to its non-expandability, is only appropriate for women.

no way -

In any case, if I have a scenario where a faulty RAM needs to be replaced, the only solution then is to only order the entire logic board. Will not that cost you closer to getting a new one. Was this new MBP retina built to last. What would be the possible cost of owership this has to the end user?

ADB

Arly Borja - Contestar

R4F2113 is a Renesas 16-Bit Single-Chip Microcomputer H8S Family / H8S/2100 Series

Dan - Contestar

As for the soldered-in RAM: I believe that they've figured out what the probability of failure of RAM is, and it must be low enough that it's not likely that RAM will be failing more often than anything else on the board. If you want replaceable RAM, why stop there: you could have a replaceable CPU. And GPU! And why not something else as well. See where it goes? RAM is not special in any way.

Kuba Ober - Contestar

Thats exactly the point! Engineers have labored to make all of these parts modular and Apple is taking their notebooks in the completely wrong direction. Gaming notebooks have had MXM graphics card slots for a long time now. It is not only environmentally unfriendly to solder RAM to the board, but also prevents upgrades! Boo Apple!

Honorius -

HELLO, from ex. NOKIA COUNTRY (Finland). Nokia is closing Finland-Salo-Factory soon. Will buy Apple iPhone as soon the v.5 is out.

Back to the Apple Macbook Pro - retina. I'd say, do the same disassembly later too. Maybe in one month Apple have done changes to the construction and you'll see that the battery will be connected using screws and also will be changed more easily. What I'm saying is that I think that Apple is trying to mess up with media and is also trying to create an illusion that all the service needs to be done in repairshops. I don't think that even Apple is that dumb that would make products unserviceable.

-JMO-

Mika - Contestar

I have have computers for more than 20 years now and NEVER had a case of failed ram. I had a Thinkpad that need to replace the... logic board :P They were covered by the 3 year warranty, so I did not pay anything. Also had a HP that needed logic board replacement. Never had problems with desktops.

Witch brings me to my next point: they have warranty, If you are worried about it, buy extended warranty.

The only way to make smaller and lighter notebooks is this, why carry 500g more all day just for the chance to upgrade your ram or pay less in case of a failure out of warranty? Everyone is complaining but it doesn´t make any sense. Buy heavier and larger notebooks them!

Thiago Gallo - Contestar

All i can hear a big sucking sound, your money being sucked up by Apple. When you purchase this abomination called computer and when it needs repair. This is how they were in the 80's and they have returned to same position in the 2012. Proprietary piece of crap, that is like a expensive Bic lighter, toss it and get a new one.

LeCritique - Contestar

Bingo!

brunobgl -

This teardown was for the R-MBP, but what about the non R models? I guess were awaiting a teardown to confirm but from the options on apple it would seem the non-R's have a standard 2.5" drive bay and perhaps removable/upgradeable memory; in which case this might be the better mac to get? I await more info and am checking iFixit every day awaiting another teardown to confirm my suspicions?!?

Steve Hardy - Contestar

My concern is the length of time that AppleCare can be obtained. It is obvious that a machine this expensive needs extended warranty support. But the day will come that like my Mac Pro 8-Core 3.0 GHz Xeon, extensions to the AppleCare warrantee are not available at any price. I haven't inquired, but it may be that 3 years is the limit, after which the cost of repairs is astronomical, no matter what has gone wrong. My previous MacBook Pro, 17" HD, had a coffee spilled into it. Apple said the repairs weren't covered and wanted to replace, 1 The upper panel, 2. The optical drive, 3. the hard drive, 4, the logic board, 5. the video card, 6. the wifi card, 7. the keyboard... They wanted more to fix the machine than the ring market price for that model. That was one expensive cup of coffee, and it was hard not to be mad at the person who dumped it. Also since all the parts are soldered on, if any covered repair is required, it will probably entail a logic board change, and I would end up sending in the machine. Something I don't like doing will all my precious data on board. I like my Apple equipment, but all this is hard to take.

Douglas Goodall - Contestar

Imagine if cars were built this way:

- assembled with non-standard fasteners

- consumable parts cast into the engine block

- disassembly requires destroying other parts

Oops ... maybe I shouldn't say that too loudly...

Joe - Contestar

- It's basically a MacBook Air Pro. They are confusing the MacBook Pro line by doing this. They are also *#%&#@$ off people like me by jettisoning the 17" MacBook Pro. What I did notice is that they got the prices jacked up so high they now are about the same as an old 17" model fully decked out -- This goes for both the basic and Retina models. Yuck.

- Also, this is the first full, formal product release since Jobs croaked. It looks like they are taking a turn toward the closed-source side. I don't like the way this Compaq guy is running things. Late 90s Compaqs sucked for various proprietary hardware design and reliability reasons. I don't want new Macs to suck.

- The score here is basically a ZERO. No Apple computer should ever get a zero on any measure. They are dishonoring Jobs' legacy.

ingyhere - Contestar

I would have to dispute your "reparability" score.

It looks very easy to open up and replace the components.

What you should say is the "upgradability" is difficult.

Since you sell tools for upgrade, that should be considered a conflict of interest.

Steve Rea - Contestar

And this teardown explains the 65% Apple care discount for this device. A big ouch for this one indeed. It's a challenge to pry open, tear down, and might have high repair cost after 4 years.

Budi Nugroho - Contestar

Thes screen is only a one piece or have a plastic protection film ?

My screen have a superficial detail i dont know if i need change the complete screen ? the screen see perfect, only this superficial detail...

Thanks ¡¡¡

DreaDy2013 - Contestar

can the 802.11ac WiFi card from the late 2013 model work in the mid 2012 model?

cyglenn - Contestar

I swapped the mid-2012 wifi module with the 2013 wifi module and my iWatch works perfectly to unlock my system (the iWatch is not compatible with the mid-2012 module).

winterg -

Hi,

Anyone knows how to replace the hinges?

My screen is not aligned with base case properly so I'm thinking to do the hinges replacement.

jh75104 - Contestar

You can't. But you CAN align them. Remove the bottom, loosen the 6 screws of the hinges, and align the display. Tighten, and you're done. It is a 10 minute job.

Richard Rosenberger -

Why is the teardown of the MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Mid 2012 not as detailed as the teardown of the MacBook Pro 17" Unibody Logic Board Replacement? This is not nearly as helpful as your other teardowns because of lack of detail. The battery can be replaced fairly easy with the use of Isoproyl alcohol 99.9% pure. Use a syringe to squirt it under the batteries and then work it around under them. Let it set a few minutes to soften the glue and then began prying the batteries up. As you get the batteries to pry up a little, squirt some more alcohol under them again and let it sit a few more minutes. Then begin prying them up again. There is a metal cover between the two middle batteries and trackpad, protecting the trackpad ribbon cable. Make sure you stay between the battery and the metal cover as you pry the battery loose. Take your time and you will have no problem getting the batteries loose. It took me about 30 minutes.

Gregory Dixon - Contestar

I removed my battery using your method using 91% Isoproyl. It took a little work but it turned out great!! The battery is defiantly removable and not to difficult to do. So happy to see my computer up and running like normal.

Nick Fulton -

I'm surprised no one has tried a heat gun on the battery yet.

mpias - Contestar

I have, not recommended. Thankfully it was tested on an out of warranty one that was going to be binned anyway, but the batteries warped to the point that they no longer fit properly in the case, due to the fine tolerances. All in all, a completely shite design. What is wrong with a slimline plastic frame to hold batteries in place, and screws to hold the plastic in place? This is a top of the range computer, and it's batteries are held on with tape? Better check they didn't cable-tie the screen hinges ;)

sashahilton00 -

I purchased my RMBP in June 2012. I have used it everyday. My only breakdown so far has been the power cord. I purchased an after market power cord that lasted 6 months. I went to the Apple store last year and purchased a new Apple power cord. So far it has worked well, as has the RMBP. The battery still works, although doesn't keep a charge as long as it did when it was new. I would say it is 70% of what it was when new. I believe this is the best notebook computer I have ever owned. I have had at least 9 notebooks. I have been using computers since 1987. Before I started to use Macs I built my own computers, and enjoyed upgrading my desktops and notebooks. The non-upgradability of the RMBP has not bothered me in the least. I maxed out the memory and the SSD when I purchased it. I did not purchase the Apple Care. Still using my RMBP everyday. Although I plan on upgrading to the next RMBP that is released by Apple.

David Mascot - Contestar

CAn we upgrade from 8 gb to 16 gb ram ?

OR i get you wrong ?

Kaan Karal -

Agreed! I purchased my RMBP in December 2012 and its still going strong. The only issues I have are the fact that I can't upgrade to 16GB. Didn't want to shell out the extra $400 for the upgrade. The other one is the oleophobic coating has started to come off. Probably didn't help eating in front of the screen. Bad habit. But as David mentioned, this is the best computer I have ever owned and I have had them since the first IBM PC came out 35 years ago! My previous laptop was an HP Pavillion 17" gaming system that I paid more for ($2500) than the RMBP. I have always paid extra to get the best display available. Doesn't make sense that the screen you stare at for 8+ hours a day should be the best. With the two additional monitors plugged into the lightning and HDMI ports I still have a powerful and flexible system. Not to happy about the latest MBP with the USB-C port dongle nonsense. I also for the life of me can't figure out why all Apple power cables seem to last only a couple of years.

Robert Vinci -

Replace the whole display assembly!

I managed to find an exact 15" retina display assembly for $160 (an Apple genius want over $600) and replaced my damaged one. The ifixit's instructions is a straight forward. Make sure that you are calm when you reconnect the 3 tiny connectors back, yes very tiny. Thanks to fixit.

Adisak Ratana - Contestar

I managed to replace the 15" retina display assembly myself and save big bucks. I found the new exact display assembly for $160 on eBay. Apple store want over $600. when you do the works, pls make sure you are calm and in a good mood. The instruction is a strait forward. Thanks to ifixit.

Adisak Ratana - Contestar

I removed the battery using "paracord" of strong string to cut the tape underneath the battery in a garotte fashion. Worked a treat. new trackpad and battery win :) search "How to remove 15" MacBook Pro Retina Glued Battery with a Thread" on youtube.

contact - Contestar

Interesting, I found a few difffernces with mine. Same model and all, but my 512SSD is using a Marvell control chip, Samsung cache chip, and San disk nand flash memory chips. Maybe mine is made by crucial since it almost follows the Crucial M4 drives.

The Marvell controler is the Marvell 88SS9174-BLD2

Samsung cache is K4B4G1646B-HCK0

And the NAND memory is SanDisk 05055 064GA

This is an original MacBook Pro retina mid 2012 15 inch, but Apple did replace the SSD drive under apple care once. Maybe this is a faster one then the original one it came with?

ScottJD - Contestar

https://youtu.be/fupkPz55tUo How to replace 15" MacBook Pro Retina Glued Battery with a Thread - Part 1

nbeijer - Contestar

I had to replace my CPU/GPU heatsink paste to keep my 2012 Mac Retina from overheating https://fearby.com/article/case-overheat... High Sierra pushes this hardware to the max.

Simon - Contestar

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