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La primer de las tan esperadas actualizaciones de la laptop de nivel pro de Apple está en nuestra mesa de desmontaje ¿pero qué demonios es esto? ¿Un MacBook Pro sin barra táctil? ¿Un MacBook Pro con teclas de función? ¿Un MacBook Pro con dos puertos Thunderbolt 3? Nadie sabe realmente cómo llamarla, pero sabemos exactamente qué hacer. Sigue leyendo para ver nuestro desmontaje de MacBook Pro de finales de 2016 (Edición Escape).

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  1. Hemos estado esperando durante muchas lunas llenas una actualización del MacBook Pro. ¿Qué vamos a encontrar? Sabemos lo básico: Una pantalla retina retroiluminada LED IPS de 13.3” con una resolución de 2560 × 1600 (227 ppp), gama de colores P3 Un Intel Core i5 de dos núcleos "Skylake" a 2.0 Ghz (Turbo Boost hasta 3,1 Ghz) con una Intel Iris Graphics 540 integrada
    • Hemos estado esperando durante muchas lunas llenas una actualización del MacBook Pro. ¿Qué vamos a encontrar? Sabemos lo básico:

    • Una pantalla retina retroiluminada LED IPS de 13.3” con una resolución de 2560 × 1600 (227 ppp), gama de colores P3

    • Un Intel Core i5 de dos núcleos "Skylake" a 2.0 Ghz (Turbo Boost hasta 3,1 Ghz) con una Intel Iris Graphics 540 integrada

    • Memoria de 8 GB LPDDR3 de 1866 MHz (Disponible configuración de 16 GB)

    • SSD basado en PCI-e de 256GB, 512 GB o 1 TB

    • Dos puertos Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) que soportan carga, DisplayPort, Thunderbolt, USB 3.1 de segunda generación

    • Este modelo trae teclas de función en vez de la nueva Touch Bar. ¡Si estás interesado en está atento! Volveremos en unas semanas con un desmontaje del nuevo Macbook Pro con Barra Táctil.

    I get that the new touch bar will replace the Function keys, but what if you use Function keys in Excel etc ..... how will you perform these functions with the new macbook pro ?

    gregnrichardson - Contestar

  2. Dos puertos Thunderbolt 3 pueblan el lado izquierdo de esta laptop... y eso es todo. El factor de forma del USB-C es versátil, pero es probable que necesites un puñado de adaptadores para que pueda interactuar con tu hardware existente. En el lado izquierdo, hay una toma de auriculares solitaria de 3.5 mm.
    • Dos puertos Thunderbolt 3 pueblan el lado izquierdo de esta laptop... y eso es todo.

    • El factor de forma del USB-C es versátil, pero es probable que necesites un puñado de adaptadores para que pueda interactuar con tu hardware existente.

    • En el lado izquierdo, hay una toma de auriculares solitaria de 3.5 mm.

    • Esperen, ¿qué?

    • Después de todo el alboroto acerca de cómo el conector para auriculares es un hardware anticuado que no merece espacio en el iPhone 7, esto parece extraño.

    • Pero, ¿quiénes somos nosotros para juzgar? Es un estándar muy utilizado y estamos 100% a bordo con eso. Solo sepan que no se pueden enchufar los Lightning Earpords de tu iPhone 7, ya que no existe el adaptador necesario.

    • Al completar nuestra inspección de la caja exterior, notamos el número de modelo nuevo: A1708.

    if they not put jack, when they can't show dj staff on presentation

    Px pik - Contestar

    The reason they didn't want it in the iPhone is because it takes up too much space in such a thin, small device. A laptop, even a new, thin one, still has a bit more breathing room and a port like that has less of an impact. I feel like you guys know this, know that *we* know this, and just added that comment to rile people up. =P

    prokanda - Contestar

    It's not just a "headphone jack" it's also an optical audio port. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202730

    Kirke - Contestar

    are you sure? on that page the late 2016 is not listed...

    diendi -

    S/PDIF optical digital audio out is also not listed in the system information. Pretty sure it's just a headphone jack.

    Jeff Suovanen -

    I don't think it's odd to have a jack. A laptop and a phone are different machines. People use laptops to watch movies and edit multimedia...

    Zaphod B - Contestar

    I believe the removal of the jack from the iPhone was to increase it's water resistance. Not as much of an issue with laptops.

    imtimrob - Contestar

    Something about A1708( If you want to see more electronic components product-data,this web is a good choic: http://www.hqew.net/product-data )

    PRODUCT DESCRIPTION:

     Base chemistry: epoxy only, cationic polymerization

     One component adhesive ready for use, solvent-free, UV and/or heat curing

    PRODUCT USE:

     Active alignment of components for optoelectronics and semiconductor packaging

     High precision bonding  Bonding of opaque substrates and optical parts

    FEATURES:

     Epoxy only, high adhesion, high Tg, long shelf and working life, room temperature stable, not sensitive to oxygen in cure process, excellent reliability performances, robust for solder reflow process

    INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE:

    1) Clean the substrates to remove contamination, dust, moisture, salt and/or oil

    2) Dispense adhesive on substrates

    3) Bond substrates (with active alignment – optional)

    4) UV cure to fix alignment or to bond

    5) Thermal cure: to cure adhesive in shadow area and to improve adhesion of bonded parts

    AmandaLi - Contestar

  3. Si bien nos morimos por mondar emojis con un toque de la barra táctil, a esta MacBook le falta la función sobresaliente de la serie de MacBook Pro de 2016: en vez tiene teclas físicas de función. Sin embargo, espiamos una tecla escape XL (extra larga) que distingue esta hilera de teclas de función de otras. Haciendo una pausa antes de zambullirnos en el ombligo, sacamos nuestra vieja amiga rosa dorada, la Retina MacBook 2016 para comparar.
    • Si bien nos morimos por mondar emojis con un toque de la barra táctil, a esta MacBook le falta la función sobresaliente de la serie de MacBook Pro de 2016: en vez tiene teclas físicas de función.

    • Sin embargo, espiamos una tecla escape XL (extra larga) que distingue esta hilera de teclas de función de otras.

    • Haciendo una pausa antes de zambullirnos en el ombligo, sacamos nuestra vieja amiga rosa dorada, la Retina MacBook 2016 para comparar.

    • La Pro se ve gigante al lado de su hermana rosa, con un panel táctil significativamente más grande.

    • Además, las rejillas de los altavoces han migrado hacia abajo desde el borde superior del teclado para flanquearlo en los lados izquierdo y derecho, ahora posible gracias a la media pulgada extra de Pro.

    • Aquí hay una última vista previa de rayos X de las partes internas. ¡Hora de ensuciarnos las manos!

    • Luego de seis años de remover los tornillos patentados pentalobe de las laptops MacBook, podemos remover los seis desde la parte trasera de esta laptop con sus ojos cerrados.

    • Sucede que también vendemos el tornillo pentalobe más bonito, útil para todas tus necesidades de apertura de tu MacBook.

    • ¡Seis tornillos! Es el el número más pequeño que hemos visto en una unibody MacBook de cualquier época, con 8 en la MacBook 2015 y 10 en la mayoría de las MacBooks Pro.

    The screws for the bottom cover is a T5 right? The six screws.

    Also, do you know if it's possible to buy a set of replacement screws for the cover?

    One of my screws is stripped, I can unscrew it but if I do I can't use it again for sure.

    Calby - Contestar

    I did mean P5 and not T5, the same size that it is for the MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro 2015?

    Calby - Contestar

    One more question, are all the screws the same size (length)?

    Calby - Contestar

    • Bueno, esto es nuevo. Estamos momentáneamente perplejos ante la nueva y pequeña caja extra segura, antes de descifrar el código para eliminarlo.

    • La ventosa ayuda a levantar el borde inferior para poder ingresar una púa de apertura y abrir clips ocultos en cada lado. Después de eso, desliza toda la caja inferior hacia abajo y ya estás libre.

    • Todos los clips y ganchos adicionales ayudan a que la caja inferior sirva como refuerzo de la caja, en lugar de la cantidad normal de tornillos.

  4. Con el código ya descifrado y el panel removido, seguimos desconectando la batería y nos damos cuenta de que las cosas están extrañas. Este tornillo T5 de cabeza ancha sirve como un conector de prensa súper seguro para la batería. Al doblar  el conector hacia atrás,  vemos algunas almohadillas de cobre. Dos grandes para positivo y puesta a tierra de  la batería, y varios puntos más pequeños. Tal vez ... ¿Puntos de prueba?
    • Con el código ya descifrado y el panel removido, seguimos desconectando la batería y nos damos cuenta de que las cosas están extrañas.

    • Este tornillo T5 de cabeza ancha sirve como un conector de prensa súper seguro para la batería.

    • Al doblar el conector hacia atrás, vemos algunas almohadillas de cobre. Dos grandes para positivo y puesta a tierra de la batería, y varios puntos más pequeños. Tal vez ... ¿Puntos de prueba?

    • Un punto de prueba es una almohadilla metálica expuesta que permite el diagnóstico de circuitos electrónicos. Piensa en ello como si fuera un portal al circuito que revela continuidad, permitiendo señales de prueba y proporcionando puntos adicionales para acortar el tablero.

    suspect the small pins are i2c or similar communication points to connect to whatever electronics within the battery (or some temperature sensor or something)

    sxpert - Contestar

    Definitely test points upon cracking open one of these bad boys the say tp and than letter/number combinations by each smaller pin, I would say that is hard to doubt that they are test points, if you scroll to step 9 the picture shows the tp labeling

    Owen M - Contestar

    Do i have to remove the battery to replace the headphone jack?

    K Pierre - Contestar

  5. Siguiendo nuestra intuición, luego intentamos el panel táctil y somos sorprendidos agradablemente por la facilidad de su extracción. Este representa una mejora gigante de los MacBook Pro de 13" previos donde el panel táctil estaba atrapado debajo de la batería. Encontramos hardware digital familiar agregado al panel táctil:
    • Siguiendo nuestra intuición, luego intentamos el panel táctil y somos sorprendidos agradablemente por la facilidad de su extracción.

    • Este representa una mejora gigante de los MacBook Pro de 13" previos donde el panel táctil estaba atrapado debajo de la batería.

    • Encontramos hardware digital familiar agregado al panel táctil:

    • ST Microelectronics STM32F103VB ARM Cortex-M3 MCU

    • Controlador táctil Broadcom BCM5976C1KUFBG

    • También encontramos el Motor Táptico, o también conocido como el electroimán detrás del Force Touch sujeto simplemente con tornillos y contactos de muelle.

    • Alentados nuestro éxito con el panel táctil , abordamos la batería a continuación.

    • Nuestra confianza resulta rápidamente abatida por este adhesivo obstinado. Vuelven la frustración y los flashbacks.

    • Suerte que estamos armados para lidiar con una guerra de batería pegajosa en iFixit. Nos arremetemos en la batalla con calor y tarjetas de plástico.

    • Suerte también que, con el panel táctil fuera primero, podemos hacer palanca en esa celda central súper molesta, una fuente habitual de molestia en reparación.

    • Con perseverancia liberamos la batería. ¡Sigamos dando buena pelea!

    I have to wonder how long this step took. I have to wonder if you have to re-heat the adhesive to re-install.

    Unclebugs - Contestar

    do you sell these batteries ?

    Ali Aziz - Contestar

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  7. Con 54.5 Wh, esta batería distribuye  ~27% menor potencia entre cargas que la edición del año pasado, aunque con solo tres celdas en vez de seis, podría ser un poquitín más fácil de remover. Dicho esto, esta Pro en realidad tiene más brío que su hermana equipada con barra táctil cuya batería tiene 49.2 Wh. Además, Apple sostiene que esta batería sirve para 10 horas de navegación web inalámbrica equivalente a la MacBook Pro 13" del año pasado y las 41.4 Wh del  Retina MacBook 2016.
    • Con 54.5 Wh, esta batería distribuye ~27% menor potencia entre cargas que la edición del año pasado, aunque con solo tres celdas en vez de seis, podría ser un poquitín más fácil de remover.

    • Dicho esto, esta Pro en realidad tiene más brío que su hermana equipada con barra táctil cuya batería tiene 49.2 Wh.

    • Además, Apple sostiene que esta batería sirve para 10 horas de navegación web inalámbrica equivalente a la MacBook Pro 13" del año pasado y las 41.4 Wh del Retina MacBook 2016.

    • En la parte superior encontramos este tablero de control de la batería que, a diferencia de los componentes impecablemente detallados que lo rodean, está recubierto con un epoxi al estilo del dongle Lightning a auricular de Apple.

  8. Dirigimos nuestra atención al muy bien protegido SSS, comenzamos por quitar este parche gigante  de cinta protectora. Según Apple, sabemos que el SSD mismo usa una interfaz basada en PCIe de alta velocidad, pero esta factor de forma y configuración de pin se ve nuevo.
    • Dirigimos nuestra atención al muy bien protegido SSS, comenzamos por quitar este parche gigante de cinta protectora.

    • Según Apple, sabemos que el SSD mismo usa una interfaz basada en PCIe de alta velocidad, pero esta factor de forma y configuración de pin se ve nuevo.

    • Hora de levantar esos escudos y ver exactamente lo qué Apple se trae ahí arriba...

    • Es bueno que Apple ha mantenido sus unidades SSD extraíbles como un primer componente de salida, lo que simplifica las actualizaciones.

    This is much more for important for data recovery than for upgrades. Just imagine the horror when you spill a bit of coke on your mac and 512 GB of your data are gone. This way you can swap the SSD to your new Macbook Pro and just go on as nothing happened.

    jirituzil - Contestar

    Are you sure it won't also be fried along with the other components?

    plink53 - Contestar

    Chances it will stay alive are very high as it is a small component and shielded from both sides.

    jirituzil - Contestar

    Looks like a PCIe 3.0 x8?

    dicalp - Contestar

    Any chance the shield is meant to reduce the chirping/grinding sounds of the SSD? Does it differ from the Early 2015 in ways that would be likely to impact the amount of high frequency noise from the SSD?

    Marius Bendiksen - Contestar

    As for swapping the SSD for a new computer - are we sure that the computer doesn't key the computer's UUID or something to the flash translation table (or some other part) of the flash? Even if you *don't* have FileVault encryption turned on?

    jimwitte - Contestar

    Will you ever find a compatible SSD on alternative market? Is it an option to buy the 256GB model and upgrade it by yourself?

    Emanuele io - Contestar

    But it might indicate that Apple will offer an "upgrade"path in the future (Optane/XPoint when Intel figure out how to make it work? Yeah, I know, wishful thinking). Or could they stuff some other chip on that board? Instead of using 4 chips for the SSD, use two higher-density chips and put an M2 chip in the remaining space?

    ("Our latest baby - the second generation M2 motion co-processor. Packed with new and exciting features.. we're sure you're going to love it!" me writing Apple's press release for them..)

    jimwitte - Contestar

    Does the 2017 model also feature removable SSD?

    nicholasaujalay - Contestar

    yes, it does. though i wish i could find one of the ssds

    Andre Johnson -

    is there any other model that has this disk pcIe 1 tb? or is there some adapter to connect the disk via usb and retrieve the information?

    Silvio Benvenuto - Contestar

    I couldn’t find any external adapter but what for do you need it? I have just swapped to a 1tb SSD and you can load datas from the old through a backup in time machine

    Francesco Malaspina -

    @francesco Time Machine is great until you want a bare metal OSX with your data added to it. In some cases you may want to upgrade a hard drive and put a brand new fresh copy of OSX on it only pull files and folders without pulling the whole directory from your old drive. This is something we in IT do all the time as it gets rid of a ton of background junk that gets backed up that takes up space.

    Josh Ledford - Contestar

    Hi, I had a situation with this MacBook Pro. I’m trying to replace the screen. However I sent my MBP (this MBP) to a bad technical services and they removed this protective tape. It’s ok if I leave the SSD without this protective tape???? I appreciate your help!!!

    flaviorrr - Contestar

  9. Veamos qué es lo que está impulsando esta pizarra de almacenamiento lateral: Memoria flash SanDisk SDRQKBDC4 064G 64 GB NAND (x4 por un total de 256 GB). Apple 338S00227
    • Veamos qué es lo que está impulsando esta pizarra de almacenamiento lateral:

    • Memoria flash SanDisk SDRQKBDC4 064G 64 GB NAND (x4 por un total de 256 GB).

    • Apple 338S00227

    • Texas Instruments 58879D MOSFET

    • F4432ACPE-GD-F posiblemente Micron 512 MB DDR2 RAM

    • Siguiendo una corazonada, nos fijamos debajo de este chip:

    • ¡Éxito! Un reflujo revelado: Controlador SSD Apple 338S00199

    • Esta es la primera vez que vemos un controlador SSD súper personalizado de Apple en un PCIe SSD extraible. Esperemos que estos bobos estén disponibles para actualizaciones futuras.

    From the information shown in the OS X, the SSD controller should be the same one used in the MacBook released early 2016. F4432ACPE-GD-F could be 4Gb LPDDR3 from Micron.

    JJ Wu - Contestar

    Is this controller proprietary and required for use or will other companies (OWC) be able to provide replacement/larger SSDs for this MBP?

    plink53 - Contestar

    It is Apple proprietary NVMe SSD controller.

    JJ Wu -

    Micron has a part number which is similar to F4432ACPE-GD-F.

    http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en...

    https://octopart.com/edf4432acpe-gd-f-es...

    F4432ACPE-GD-F could be Micron's 4Gb LPDDR3.

    JJ Wu -

    SSD controller inside Apple Macbook 2016. It is AP0256J.

    http://www.macotakara.jp/blog/archives/0...

    SSD controller in the Apple MacBook Pro 2016. It is also AP0256J.

    http://www.macotakara.jp/blog/macintosh/...

    The difference is PCIe lane numbers. In the MacBook 2016, it is 2-lanes PCIe 3.0 and it is 4-lanes PCIe 3.0 in the MacBook Pro 2016.

    JJ Wu - Contestar

    > first time we've seen Apple's … controller in a removable

    Did you not see late 2015 iMac and MacBook Air? Both contain Apple NVMe blades.

    http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-...

    http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2015...

    http://blog.macsales.com/33572-owc-unbox...

    unsubstantiated - Contestar

    Recall that Apple purchased Anobit, an Israeli SSD controller company back in 2011.

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/12/app...

    Another Guest - Contestar

    I haven’t been able to source an enclosure for this type of SSD. Any suggestions on data recovery?

    Ira Jacobs - Contestar

    Any luck finding an enclosure?

    David Middleton -

  10. Nos tropezamos con otro parecido en este MacBook al comenzar a extraer el altavoz: juntas de tornillo de amortiguador de vibración, similares a aquellas que se encuentran eniMac. Estos altavoces supuestamente dan más brío que los de las generaciones previas, y claramente necesitan un sistema de montaje más robusto para evitar que tu laptop tiemble en tu regazo.
    • Nos tropezamos con otro parecido en este MacBook al comenzar a extraer el altavoz: juntas de tornillo de amortiguador de vibración, similares a aquellas que se encuentran eniMac.

    • Estos altavoces supuestamente dan más brío que los de las generaciones previas, y claramente necesitan un sistema de montaje más robusto para evitar que tu laptop tiemble en tu regazo.

    • Altavoz uno, altavoz dos, altavoz negro, altavoz negro. Este desmontaje comienza a sonar bien.

    https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/ig... - Is the black thing on the left side of the screen just an empty place holder? Thinking of the "Pro" Pro (not this "Air" Pro) models with a dedicated graphic card have two fans, this model should have more space inside.

    Doc Brown - Contestar

    If I'm seeing what you're seeing, I think you're talking about the rectangular space where the SSD was connected?

    Sam Goldheart -

    What are the silver round-rectangle things on the edge of the speakers assembly? Are those what actually creates vibration? (I really need to read up on modern speaker technology - my knowledge stops at coil-and-cone speakers..)

    jimwitte - Contestar

  11. Dado nuestro entusiasmo por la extracción de la placa lógica (y la cantidad de ornamentos y papel de regalos en las tiendas en todos lados), se puede pensar que la Navidad llegó 54 días antes. Comenzamos a buscar la "arquitectura avanzada" que Apple alardea en su comunicado de prensa de la misma forma que un niño revuelve su calcetín la mañana de Navidad. ... Estamos un poco decepcionados que la arquitectura avanzada en realidad significa "reubicación de los tornillos del disipador de calor a la parte trasera de la placa lógica."
    • Dado nuestro entusiasmo por la extracción de la placa lógica (y la cantidad de ornamentos y papel de regalos en las tiendas en todos lados), se puede pensar que la Navidad llegó 54 días antes.

    • Comenzamos a buscar la "arquitectura avanzada" que Apple alardea en su comunicado de prensa de la misma forma que un niño revuelve su calcetín la mañana de Navidad.

    • ... Estamos un poco decepcionados que la arquitectura avanzada en realidad significa "reubicación de los tornillos del disipador de calor a la parte trasera de la placa lógica."

    • Esta afirmación fue un poco valiente, si nos preguntan.

    If you check apple website, the touchbar version has 2 fans instead of one, and th 15 inch has "twice as many blades"

    jozefferko9 - Contestar

    Thermal architecture has a lot more than heatsink path area and location to it. It has to do with where the sources are postioned, conductivity and length of the path from sources to sinks, etc. unless you build up thermal models for comparison, I do not think you can claim that this system is not susbstantially different.

    davidtheil - Contestar

    Just wondering why is the thermal paste applied just on a portion of the surface. That doesn't bode well for the thermal conductivity between the chip and the heatsink.

    mbaris18 - Contestar

    Only those are the chips. The non covered part is the PCB substrate

    dennis97519 -

    Looks like way too much thermal paste to me. Shades of 2011...

    john - Contestar

    A lot of people have complained about Apple obsession with overly-thin computers, and would prefer more battery over a 6 mm reduction in thickness any day (myself included). The simplest way would seem to add more battery under the palm rests, and just left the rest to be "wasted space". Would that that necessarily make the thermal properties of the machine as a whole better? Or would it just create air turbulence inside or make things worse - overheating some other component rather than venting the heat to the air that's blown out the hinge slots? Does the MBP 2016 have *any* other air vents other than the slots under the screen hinge and the keyboard? And does the keyboard really do anything in that regard?

    jimwitte - Contestar

    I swear that big chip has the same proportions of the Motorola 68000

    dheady - Contestar

    Can someone tell me where the Power Pins are?

    Does anyone have the exact size/data of it? I would like to render it…

    Yuna Braska - Contestar

    Sony actually used this “advanced architecture” in their PlayStation 3 :-P

    Phillip De Rossi - Contestar

  12. Nos enfrentamos la parte frontal de la placa lógica: Procesador Intel Core i5-6360U  con Intel Iris Graphics 540
    • Nos enfrentamos la parte frontal de la placa lógica:

    • Procesador Intel Core i5-6360U con Intel Iris Graphics 540

    • SKhynix H9CCNNNBJTML LPDDR3 alta velocidad sincrónico DRAM

    • Módulo Wi-Fi Universal Scientific Industrial 339S025

    • Controlador Thunderbolt Intel JHL6540

    • Texas Instruments 58873D Synchronous Buck NexFET Power Block MOSFET Pair

    • Procesador de cámara Broadcom BCM15700A2

    • Micron MT41K256M16TW-107 512 MB DDR3L SDRAM

    It is not Intel DSL6510 Thunderbolt 3 controller. It it not DSL6540 either.

    From the chip marking, it should be Intel JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 controller.

    http://ark.intel.com/products/94031/Inte...

    JJ Wu - Contestar

    What is the 512MB SDRAM by the Thunderbolt controller for?

    Luke Elliott - Contestar

    That is for Broadcom BCM15700A2

    JJ Wu -

    Can you shed more light on WiFi module, like antennas and specs? Cheers

    chipped - Contestar

    i5-6460U or i5-6360U?

    Segno - Contestar

    can you replace or switch out the CPU or is it soldered onto the logic board?

    Daniel Pan - Contestar

    This just a shame. W u line i5 in a 1700$ notebook.

    Rusko Ranchet - Contestar

    Hi, I had a situation with this MacBook Pro. I’m trying to replace the screen. However I sent my MBP (this MBP) to a bad technical services and they removed the protective tape from the LPDDR3 DRAM area. It’s ok if I leave this part without this protective tape???? I appreciate your help!!!

    flaviorrr - Contestar

  13. Damos vuelta la placa lógica y seguimos buscando:
    • Damos vuelta la placa lógica y seguimos buscando:

    • Haciendo su segunda aparición, , SKhynix H9CCNNNBJTML LPDDR3 DRAM sincrónico y de alta velocidad.

    • Texas Instruments SN650839 66AL7XWGI (como se ve enl la Retina MacBook de 2016)

    • 2x Texas Instruments CD3215B03 66AQ8YW G1

    • Winbond SpiFlash W25Q64FV 64 Mb memoria flash serial

    • Controlador de administración de sistema Texas Instruments TM4EA231 H6ZXRI

    • Audio Codec Cirrus Logic CS42L63A

    • Intersil 95828 HRTZ X630MRR

    Looks like the USB-C jacks have a separate daughter board, which plugs into the system board, or is it soldered? Would be a major repairability feature IMHO

    Arne Schoch - Contestar

    Looks like it is soldered, this is going to end up ugly if you manage to break the ports.

    Tom Chai -

    Can anyone please link a (free) datasheet from the Audio Codec chip? I'm curious to sound quality. How the Macbook Pro Retina mid 2015 (13", 15") sound quality is compared to this new (?) one. Thanks.

    Xardas22222 - Contestar

    Is there two audio chips from Cirrus Logic? There is Cirrus Logic CS42L63A Audio Codec. And, on the upper right corner, there is one chip next to CS42L63A. It has marking "CIRRUS". Is that also audio codec?

    JJ Wu - Contestar

  14. Dado el renombrado coraje de Apple en la eliminación de puertos, no era irrazonable pensar que el conector para auriculares se vería expulsado de la isla antes de esta ronda de MacBook Pro. Milagrosamente, el conector para auriculares sobrevivió ... pero dado que se trata de una unidad modular única (con dos micrófonos conectados) pegada a la parte inferior del ventilador, podría fácilmente dejarse en favor de un conector Lightning o USB-C en el próximo lanzamiento de MacBook.
    • Dado el renombrado coraje de Apple en la eliminación de puertos, no era irrazonable pensar que el conector para auriculares se vería expulsado de la isla antes de esta ronda de MacBook Pro.

    • Milagrosamente, el conector para auriculares sobrevivió ... pero dado que se trata de una unidad modular única (con dos micrófonos conectados) pegada a la parte inferior del ventilador, podría fácilmente dejarse en favor de un conector Lightning o USB-C en el próximo lanzamiento de MacBook.

    • A continuación, echamos un vistazo más de cerca a las rejillas de los altavoces: la mayoría de los orificio son en realidad abolladuras que se hacen pasar como agujeros. Los únicos orificios pasantes están dedicados a los cuatro controladores de los altavoces y los dos micrófonos.

    Taping the two microphones to the only moving component of the entire system doesn't seem a brilliant solution.

    Paolo Lorini - Contestar

    Placing the two microphones so close to CPU fan is really not a good idea. The other side of the case would be a better place for microphones. Don't understand why Apple makes such a design.

    liq74 - Contestar

  15. Antes de llegar a la pantalla de Retina, sacamos un ventilador de lujo. Estas paletas son supuestamente súper silenciosas debido a sus paletas espaciadas asimétricamente. Curiosamente, mientras que Jony Ive se mostró entusiasmado con " de ventilador más delgados y espaciados de forma variable", esta tecnología se ha incluido en algunos modelos de MacBook Pro desde 2012.
    • Antes de llegar a la pantalla de Retina, sacamos un ventilador de lujo. Estas paletas son supuestamente súper silenciosas debido a sus paletas espaciadas asimétricamente.

    • Curiosamente, mientras que Jony Ive se mostró entusiasmado con " de ventilador más delgados y espaciados de forma variable", esta tecnología se ha incluido en algunos modelos de MacBook Pro desde 2012.

    • Hay una significante cantidad de espacio que no está ocupado por las paletas. Es probablemente otra función del sistema térmico. Además se ve bien en el vídeo.

    So... correct me if I'm wrong but does this mean if one of these fancy fans breaks I have to remove my logic board to replace it? -_-

    turcottesh - Contestar

    The space not occupied by blades is called spiral housing and is to increase the pressure recovery and the fan is therefore able to increase the flow. Pretty much standard in normal fans, pumps and turbines.

    Rainer Riegler - Contestar

    It's probably not the same design as the touch bar version, as this one much like a improved version of the rMBP13, while the touch bar version are having different lengths of blades (as official website suggested). I'm interested to see what the touch bar version offers.

    Xizhi Ma - Contestar

  16. Es hora de dirigirnos a la pantalla, sacamos algunos escudos y echamos un vistazo al hardware que alimenta esos píxeles: B1332BDPA 090BX 1605
    • Es hora de dirigirnos a la pantalla, sacamos algunos escudos y echamos un vistazo al hardware que alimenta esos píxeles:

    • B1332BDPA 090BX 1605

    • National Semiconductor 67A800U 49B1-04

    • Texas Instruments 65CLKEI TPS65157

    • NXP LPC812 ARM Cortex M0+ 32-bit MCU

    • Texas Instruments TPS65158 LCD Alta Resolución Bias IC for TV

  17. En el borde del MacBook nos encontramos con una barra brillante (sujeta por 12 tornillos P2 Pentalobe) que también sirve como una antena. ¡Ese es el sexto tipo de bit! ¿Recuerda los días en que podías actualizar tu RAM, duplicar el almacenamiento y sacarr un SSD con un destornillador Phillips y una tarde libre? iFixit recuerda. Detrás del soporte de la antena, observamos una tecnología sofisticada a lo largo de la columna vertebral del Pro.
    • En el borde del MacBook nos encontramos con una barra brillante (sujeta por 12 tornillos P2 Pentalobe) que también sirve como una antena.

    • ¡Ese es el sexto tipo de bit! ¿Recuerda los días en que podías actualizar tu RAM, duplicar el almacenamiento y sacarr un SSD con un destornillador Phillips y una tarde libre? iFixit recuerda.

    • Detrás del soporte de la antena, observamos una tecnología sofisticada a lo largo de la columna vertebral del Pro.

    • Un mecanismo de resorte enrolla el cable plano hacia arriba cuando la pantalla está cerrada y se desenreda cuando se abre la pantalla. Esto parece hacer que sea un poco más fácil cerrar la tapa.

    • Tal vez reducir unas pocas onzas del ensamblaje de la pantalla significaba que el nuevo MacBook Pro no podía confiar en la gravedad para cerrar tan bien como lo hicieron los modelos anteriores.

    This step may reveal the most significant change in the new MacBook Pro models, and one that I was hoping for as it showed up in the most recently released MacBook Air series. I believe we are looking at a flat molded ribbon cable which is carrying the display signal. And why is that so significant?

    .

    The nasty bundle-of-wires these machines have suffered with for the previous 15 years almost universally wear out after about three years. I have a stack of them, and have replaced this cable in dozens. Once Apple changed to hermetically joining the cable to the display unit, it was very very difficult to replace the cable without mangling the display. So a failed cable would necessitated replacing an otherwise operation display.

    .

    As far as I know, the Pismo was the last pro level Apple laptop to sport the hinge-ribbon-cable arrangement and mine still works great after all this time. Perhaps in spite of the ram being soldered down, Apple has at last produced a worthy laptop?

    ciradrak - Contestar

    This may be the most significant change in the new model. It looks like there is a flat ribbon cable to carry the video signal. Those are far more durable than the nasty bundle-of-wires which Apple laptops have been cursed with for the last 15 years. I might bother to buy one.

    ciradrak - Contestar

    I see the base model has now a 2x2 wifi module, whereas the model year before had 3x3, if I remember correctly.

    Steven Zhang - Contestar

    "...held in by 12 P2 Pentalobe screws...That's the 6th kind of bit."

    No, it isn't the 6th kind. The back was held on by pentalobes.

    If you mean the 6th kind/size combination, then every notebook, tower, rack server I've ever had would qualify.

    alex - Contestar

    the Pismo was the last pro level Apple laptop to sport the hinge-ribbon-cable arrangement

    So Apple used a better ribbon cable arrangement with the Pismo, and then moved *back* to the budle-of-wires-that-always-breaks?! (And it seems like a ribbon cable would also be easier to make)

    jimwitte - Contestar

    Bad news. I have one of these, and after 18 months the display has failed due to the ribbon cable/flexible PCB going open circuit. The bend radius on the flex-PCB is about 2.5 mm, which is pretty small for long term durability, even if the thickness and materials of the PCB are optimal. (Dynamic flex-PCB designs typically use a radius of 5-15 mm for long life.) In contrast, my old Apple laptops (10+ years old) haven’t suffered from this sort of problem, so it’s not clear to me that this change is actually an improvement and not another step backwards in the pursuit of thinness.

    Graeme Gill - Contestar

    The spring mechanism to tension the flat cable is probably to stop it kinking as it slides in and out of the slot in the base. This makes it a “pull” when moving in both directions, rather than a “pull” on open and “push” on close. A kink might stop the display closing, and would probably ruin the cable.

    Graeme Gill - Contestar

  18. Omitiremos desmontar la pantalla  (ya hemos recorrido esecamino antes). Entonces, ¿qué tal una radiografía encantadora? Aquí puedes ver la placa de la cámara con su cable de datos largo, el logotipo de Apple de metal sólido e incluso los pequeños imanes incrustados en la tapa para la funcionalidad de dormir/despertar. Con cuidado separamos la carcasa del teclado/ mayúsculas de la pantalla y observamos de cerca el nuevo y elegante sistema de bisagras. A veces el hardware aparentemente estándar merece una exclamación de admiración: es probable que estas pequeñas bisagras de precisión estén moldeadas por inyección, lo que permite partes más delgadas y más precisas
    • Omitiremos desmontar la pantalla (ya hemos recorrido esecamino antes). Entonces, ¿qué tal una radiografía encantadora? Aquí puedes ver la placa de la cámara con su cable de datos largo, el logotipo de Apple de metal sólido e incluso los pequeños imanes incrustados en la tapa para la funcionalidad de dormir/despertar.

    • Con cuidado separamos la carcasa del teclado/ mayúsculas de la pantalla y observamos de cerca el nuevo y elegante sistema de bisagras.

    • A veces el hardware aparentemente estándar merece una exclamación de admiración: es probable que estas pequeñas bisagras de precisión estén moldeadas por inyección, lo que permite partes más delgadas y más precisas

    • Más importante aún, se pueden producir partes más complejas con menos desperdicio que el mecanizado tradicional, lo que para nosotros es una victoria.

    what's the material of injection molded hinges?

    Jin Choi - Contestar

    Hopefully LiquidMetal!

    SJDragonetti -

    Btw, thanks again for the informative teardown!

    Jin Choi - Contestar

    Having had hinge problems once with a Gateway laptop, these in the new MacBook look durable.

    Larry Nolan - Contestar

    The Apple logo plate seems (in the x-ray picture) to have a horizontal divide about a quarter of the way down, passing between the fruit and the stem.

    What's that about?

    alex - Contestar

    > horizontal divide, between the fruit

    Maybe a sign that Apple is "cutting the stem"? Not sure if that's good or bad though.. Or maybe Apple does (is planning) to use the same "stem" piece of the inlay in other products with a bigger "apple" part, and this allows for the one piece of the metal inlay to be reused or is easier to make?

    jimwitte -

    Can you remove the apple logo? Can it be replaced with a clear logo to make it illuminate like the previous model?

    Shawn B - Contestar

  19. Las teclas del Butterfly 2.0 están realmente actualizadas! ¡Comprueba este genial rollover de MacBook / MacBook Pro (con teclas de función! Las teclas del Pro (primera imagen) son ligeramente más altas en los bordes, lo que hace que las teclas sean más fáciles de encontrar con los dedos.
    • Las teclas del Butterfly 2.0 están realmente actualizadas! ¡Comprueba este genial rollover de MacBook / MacBook Pro (con teclas de función!

    • Las teclas del Pro (primera imagen) son ligeramente más altas en los bordes, lo que hace que las teclas sean más fáciles de encontrar con los dedos.

    • El interruptor del domo debajo del mecanismo de mariposa también parece ser más pesado y mejor acoplado a la tecla que los del MacBook (segunda imagen).

    LoL this keycap is broken, just like what happened every time I tried to clean the keyboard.

    Fei Song - Contestar

    Does iFixit have the resources/equipment to determine a metal alloy's composition? I'm asking here because of Apple's patents on "Liquidmetal" things like dome switches, hinges, and springs inside Taptic engines. Some LM fans swear that the patents mean that Apple actually uses them in products, but we never see that disclosed in teardowns.

    Retiarius - Contestar

    Yes, good question. I need to see a return on my massive LQMT investment!

    SJDragonetti -

    Apple has definitely used liquid metal in products. In particular on the release tool for the iPhone / iPad SIM trays.

    alex -

    > I need to see a return on my massive LQMT investmen

    Yes! Since early August to now, because of the MBP, Liquidmetal gained a whole *2 cents*! From 0.15 to 0.17!

    jimwitte -

    How easy would it be for someone to remove and replace the keys? Say for a different keyboard layout.

    trumpettj - Contestar

    Bump!

    I'd really appreciate it if ifixit were to try this for me before I ruin my new MacBook Pro with touch bar.

    trumpettj -

    Are each keys individually LED backlit like MacBook or some other lighting mechanism ?

    Azaz Patel - Contestar

    Hopefully those are of better quality. Those newer MBP have keys that flat that the surface is quickly torn down (partly missing surface by abrasion or poor quality after 10 months was considered by Apple service as normal and out of warranty)

    Martin - Contestar

    Can you share how the key can be displaced? (I need to change the location of some keys.)

    Musto - Contestar

    I tried gently prying one with a guitar pick and it cracked. Had to send it in for a repair a mere week after purchasing it :(

    matthewyaple -

    Do function keys ("f" row) have the same locking method as the one on the photo?

    Something is stuck underneath one of the keys on my Mac =(

    phoganov - Contestar

    I resolved my issue with a stuck key. I used compressed air can to blow everything from underneath the button and now it works perfectly!

    phoganov -

    Did you remove any of the keys or just blow air towards the key from the side? Think i have the same problem with my spacebar... :(

    anderswennberg5 -

    I unfortunately sloshed some coffee onto my keyboard, first time in twenty years I have screwed up like this. Apple wants $620 for the "repair". Would greatly appreciate a little more information on safely removing and replacing keys.

    Eric Jacobsen - Contestar

    ... for example, though it is clear that pressure needs to be applied from all four corners, it would be useful to know if the prying should happen from the sides, or the top and bottoms of the keys.

    Eric Jacobsen -

    I wonder is the butterfly 2 actually "rubber-free?" Which means it's all plastic, so there's no worry about the aging.

    Xizhi Ma - Contestar

  20. Y para la gran final: ¡Todos esos bits hermosos en un solo lugar! No lo olvides: Apple tenía algunas imágenes generadas por computadora de las partes internas de sus nuevas máquinas, ¡pero lo conseguimos de verdad! Las imágenes de rayos X de alta resolución de hoy fueron presentadas por el increíble equipo de Creative Electron.
    • Y para la gran final: ¡Todos esos bits hermosos en un solo lugar!

    • No lo olvides: Apple tenía algunas imágenes generadas por computadora de las partes internas de sus nuevas máquinas, ¡pero lo conseguimos de verdad! Las imágenes de rayos X de alta resolución de hoy fueron presentadas por el increíble equipo de Creative Electron.

  21. Consideraciones Finales
    • La MacBook Pro 13" con Teclas Función obtiene un 2 de 10 en nuestra escala de reparabilidad (10 es lo más fácil de reparar):
    • Los tornillos propietarios pentalobe siguen haciendo la apertura del dispositivo innecesariamente difícil.
    • El ensamblaje de la batería está enteramente y muy fuertemente pegada a la carcasa, complicando el reemplazo de la misma.
    • La RAM está soldada a la placa madre. Hay que pagar por el aumento ahora o te quedarás anclado a 8 GB para siempre. No hay posibilidad de aumento posterior.
    • La PCIe SSD propietaria sigue sin ser un disco duro estándar. Cruza los dedos para que existan discos duros compatibles en el futuro. De momento, estás anclado a lo que tienes.
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So, no dual-fan thermal architecture for the non-touchbar version

ant0225 - Contestar

This version (non touchbar) is also using TDP 15W CPUs. The 13" one with touchbar is using TDP 28W CPUs (and has probably two fans).

therealmarv -

@chenyu apple's press renders and product site show the 13 inch mb pro with 2 fans

friendsrock80 -

Dual fan is found on the 13" MacBook pro with a touch bar becuase the TDP on the CPU is much higher. (28W). It's also in the 15" MacBook Pro with an 80W TDP, and bigger heat pipes.

Finally, It's a bit sad that you guys didn't compare this year's heat sinks to last years. Do some flow rate testing on the fans, and give us dimensions and weight of the heat sinks from last year to this year. Without making any proper measurements, you cannot make *any* claims about the thermal system being "advanced" or not.

Winter Charm - Contestar

It seems, like the version with the Touchbar will have redesigned speakers and up to 2.5x louder bass. This version without Touchbar has definitely no subwoofers shown on the MacBook Pro web page at apple.com.

Niko Millo - Contestar

What display panel they use?

abedoss - Contestar

Previously you have provided straight down shots of the MacBook Pro insides before disassembly - but this time you did not. Can you please be more consistent? I like to use these images as background wallpaper.

Eric - Contestar

Expertly done with an entertaining mix of beautiful photos, comedy, and shameless iFixit product plugs. Thanks for the effort, guys, and well done as always.

techt - Contestar

Now put it all back together and see if it still works

iwbarker - Contestar

Urgh. When Apple first moved to PCI-E SSDs, the proprietary connector was understandable because the SATA consortium had fallen behind where Apple wanted to go.

But now, you can carry as much PCI-E bandwidth as Apple wants over a standardized m.2 slot.

Having yet another proprietary Apple pinout is quite annoying, considering. The cost of upgrading my mid 2014 rMBP 15's SSD is still absurdly high owing to that.

tipoo - Contestar

It is absurd. The M.2 standard is just fine for everyone. I have no idea why Apple's priority is on skinny.

Steven Zhang -

I don't mean to sound snide, but if you buy an Apple device, you can hardly complain, because you know that Apple purposely designs planned obsolescence in their hardware. Apple introduced almost every bad practice, which the rest of the ICT industry is now copying:

1. Proprietary connectors for SSD (first Mac Air)

2. Soldered RAM (first Mac Air)

3. Soldered CPU (first Mac Air)

4. Non-removable battery which is glued to case (and sometimes soldered connection) (first iPod, first Mac Air, first iPhone)

5. Metal unibody case

6. Sealed case with custom screws

7. No expandable memory in high-end phones and media players (first iPod, first iPhone)

8. All glass front cover which is prone to cracking (first iPhone)

9. Thinnest edge bezel which decreases protection from drops (iPhone 4)

10. Glass back (iPhone 4)

11. All thin as possible

Once Apple does it, the rest of the industry copies it, because Apple has the highest profits and receives the best reviews. For this reason, I boycott Apple products.

amosbatto -

amosbatto:

I don't think planned obsolesce is planned for most of Apple's devices. E.g., the iPad 2 was still supported as of this moment through iOS 9.3.5. I do not know of any other tablets from 2011 that are actively updated by their makers today. The iPhones and iPods are the same. Soldered CPUs were introduced by Intel, who phased out PGA-type of CPU interconnects beginning with transition to BGA. Soldered RAM is a double edged sword - while you can't upgrade, you can max out to 16GB of RAM (which is default for a few years now on the 15" MBP), as well, Intel supports faster memory clocks on LPDDR3, which is not available as SODIMMs. As DDR3 SODIMMS are limited to 8GB/DIMM, this isn't an issue. You were never going to be able to upgrade beyond 16GB in the first place as higher density DIMMS are only for DDR4+. The batteries have been a common trend in portable devices since MP3 players. I support Gorilla Glass-types of screen covers as they withstand usage better than polycarbonate.

Steven Zhang -

Steven Zhang

"It is absurd. The M.2 standard is just fine for everyone."

It clearly isn't fine for everyone, or Apple would be using it.

Why is a hard call, but given Apple's use of a custom SSD controller, they could be doing things that other interface architectures simply don't support.

Owning the whole chain, end to end, opens up all sorts of possibilities, for example for speeding up virtual memory paging related I/O. If that were the case, then I doubt that Apple would tell you anything other than that it's much faster in some situations, as indeed they did.

alex -

Huh. Looks like only the 15" got the half length fan fins between each full one? Or maybe just Touchbar models? Which would be a bit penny pinch-ey for the latter case, but either way they introduced it as if each new MacBook Pro had it...

tipoo - Contestar

Is the Wifi indeed 2x2 now ? It was 3x3 before.

Steven Zhang - Contestar

Hi iwas thinking about buy a new macbook pro, Which recommend me, new macbookpro 13" 256gb no touch bar or macbook pro retina 256gb 13"? because it looks like the new version is worst than new one isn`t it?

javierdelkas - Contestar

javierdelkas:

The graphics, the monitor and the touchpad are much nicer in the new Macbook Pro 13". If you treasure any of those, go for the new one.

Steven Zhang - Contestar

People asking about graphics decisions in Apple's laptop line just need to think about 1 piece of information - TDP 15/28W for the Intel processors. The Radeon Pro 400 series in the 15" MBP has a TDP "less than 35W". People clamoring (like me initially) for dreams of a Pascal based nVidia 1060/1080 realize the GTX1060 mobile has a TDP of 75W....I would venture that is near or exceeds the TDP for the entire system. This is in line with the 900M series, but provides desktop GPU performance, but still......hot.

Apple did use the 750M at a TDP of 50W in the 2014 Retina 15" MBP, the the machines have gotten thinner since that time.

Jon Steuernagle - Contestar

hi all, is the 3,5 audio jack just and normal jack or is it "hiding" the TOSlink digital audio interface as previous model?

on the Apple products page is not specifically written as on previous MacBook Pro...

diendi - Contestar

I also would like to know if the audio jack is capable of optical out! Previous MacBook Pro stated that in the Tech Specs but the latest version does not mention optical out. Thanks!

Superkloton - Contestar

@diendi and @Superkloton: Regarding digital audio, here's a screenshot of the system report from my early 2011 MacBook Pro, which clearly shows the S/PDIF hardware—alongside the system report from the new MacBook Pro Escape, which... doesn't. Based on this, I'd say Apple dropped the digital audio out and wants you to run everything through Thunderbolt/USB-C.

Jeff Suovanen -

@jeffsu Thank you, I think this is true. In the meantime, more reports regarding this surfaced saying it doesn’t have optical out.

Superkloton -

Does the new Universal Scientific Industrial 339S025 wifi support MU-MIMO?

Harold Ront - Contestar

is it possible to change the physical keyboard layout from the us to the german version?

philippwehlen - Contestar

Is the machine completely sealed, or where air gets out of the chassis? If it has some cavities where air gets out of the chassis, can air (and dust) also get in? How the chassis is similar to, or different from the previous design in this regard?

Doc Brown - Contestar

Based on the tear down, I would say that the cooling system is similar to the pre-2013 MBPs in the way it moves air. It sucks air in from the hinge area and exhausts it via a different portion of the hinge area. This system is less dust-prone compared to the 2013+ models where there are additional slats near the sides to aid cooling. Those slats point downwards and from typical usage (laptop on laps, laptop on bed, laptop on table, etc), the downward pointing nature of the intake picks up a lot of fine fibers and dust from whatever surface is beneath the laptop. I noticed this exact behavior on my 2013 MBP as compared to the earlier 2011 MBP (without slats and hinge-only intake and exhaust).

Steven Zhang -

Anyone know the charger system for four port of USB-C?

Joy Chen - Contestar

Apple fanboy defending the scam tech. Its funny how they react despite a doomed technology.

While most of us learn, research, evaluate and value the innovation such as Microsoft and enjoy our life as a mortal being.

Why become a sheep when your life is short and they "apple" don't even bother about your existence?

In the end, It doesn't matter at all.

jlieu92 - Contestar

I have no idea what you are trying to say. What is "scam tech" ? What makes it "doomed" ? Microsoft innovative ? Your post is full of hyperbole. It sounds like you became a sheep with a different ranch.

Steven Zhang -

Strange then that Microsoft has been remodelling their whole business to be more like Apple, e.g. producing complete systems that they control from end to end, and largely failing, e.g. effectively writing off their Nokia acquisition.

alex -

You sound like the opposite of me... I have a high IQ, that means you probibly don't ;)

Gigabit87898 -

Where is iCloud/ find my mac chip in this bord?

Vishnu - Contestar

Why do you want to know?

Gigabit87898 -

Do you mean the Winbond SpiFlash ?

Kevin Gill - Contestar

Well, Apple is so fed fat with its 'iDevices', that there is no need to build decent computers anymore, as they used to! I guess, its just a matter of time until they sell out the computer section to Lenovo / Dell! ( That would be a real win! )

Me, myself, I call these 'new' model the ultimate 'iCrap' ! Before spending that amount of bucks, i'd rather get a Dell Core i 5/7 Laptop & build myself a Hackintosh

Alexander deLarge - Contestar

You're so right. Still using my 2012 15 inch non retina MBP with 2,6 GHz i7, expanded with 1 TB SSD and 2 TB HDD + 16 GB RAM. And until they make an actual laptop again and not tablet which happens to have a keyboard attached I'm not buying anything else. Sadly that probably won't ever happen again, so I hope it works another 4-5 years from now.

Andy -

me I am already feeling the need to replace my '08 Alu and I am already considering going the Linux way all the way and be done with this new ultra thin and shiny Dark Empire with the rest of iStuff to get out of the picture along my core Alu machine

MiKa -

Very detailed and humorous teardown; thanks!

franklyanne - Contestar

Hi,

thanks for the nice teardown. One question, the fan, can it be replaced without removing the logic board? With my past laptops I always had to replace moving parts, but I really don't like to touch too many flat cable or the logic board. So I wonder how complicated it will be to replace the fan once will it be completely covered with dust...

Cheers

Duc

Duc Bao Ta - Contestar

You must remove the logic board, because the screws for the fan are on the opposite side. However, Apple's modern fans are very long lasting and the hinge-intake airflow design is much less prone to dust build up than laptops with air intakes at the bottom. You should be able to just remove the back panel and blow compressed air into the heatsink from the outside to release all the dust and fiber buildup.

Steven Zhang -

OMG! What futurist crap! New ssd patern, from sandisk! And what is this crazy USB-c thing? Maybe next decade I buy a only USB-c computer

Alber Einsten - Contestar

I bet that future third party SSD will appear like those forecmacbook air.

The MacBook Pro with touch bar can't have any chance for ssd upgrade.

However all chips can be replaced with a little experience and proper tools.

Agnostos Gnostos - Contestar

however, the basic reason to buy an Apple machine is to NOT have to mess with its hardware/software that much particularly when you have to pay north of 1,857.87€

MiKa -

So each time you trip over the USB-C charging cable you pocket out good $$ for a new motherboard? Way to go, Apple!

MiKa - Contestar

Apple has ALWAYS created things that were different, always did things that were different than the rest of the industry. Back then Apple was considered a niche market and most of the industry pundits wrote Apple off as oddballs with a cult-like following. Back then Apple bucked the industry standards. Back then Apple was still the "little guy"... Back before the release of the iPod and the iPhone. Apple wasn't really considered to be much competition to the market which left a huge share for all the other players.

Microsoft was the guys to beat and everyone hated on every thing they did and you were a drone if you used that OS. Amazing how things have changed... but actually, how much they've stayed the same. People love to hate on the guy at the top of the heap.

David Doyle - Contestar

Is it possible to replace the usb-c ports without replacing the motherboard? Is there a separate small board with usb-c on the motherboard or not?

Evgeny - Contestar

I would have liked to have seen if the camera indicator LED is powered from the same source as the camera itself. This is an important security feature in other MacBooks, and only iFixit can keep Apple accountable as we move forward. Still got that display lying around?

iEvan - Contestar

I've had this problem with the 12" macbook. A speck of dust broke the shift key within 3 weeks, so I got a full refund since it was covered under the Australian Consumer Laws 30 day return policy, since Apple won't admit the structural fault in their new butterfly style keyboards.

I then got the 13" macbook pro 2016 with a "new and improved" butterfly keyboard to have the same thing happen 2 weeks after purchase. Returned it again, got another one.

I'm just going to repeat this process every 30 days until the next model is released, hopefully then the newer model won't be so susceptible to flecks of household dust.

Or I start using my macbooks in a hermetically sealed room with a cryovac suit on.

Here is a conversation with Applecare about the problem that Apple refuses to identify when you go in store with stuck keys:

https://www.4shared.com/music/8YeBZN75ca...?

sinphild - Contestar

How simple is it to clean logic board corrosion on this model? What are the minimum components to remove before you have access to the logic board?

paul.hanna - Contestar

2017 model have removable SSD?

nicholasaujalay - Contestar

2017 non touch bar with removable SSD?

Martin Langer - Contestar

to just take the display top off do you have to still do a complete teardown?

swimmer35 - Contestar

No, but you do have to remove the airport/bluetooth antenna, which is held in with 0.8mm pentalobe screws.

So, disable auto boot on logic board (through terminal command)

Then remove bottom case

Then disconnect battery

Then remove antenna

Then remove display.

Make sure the display cables fold the correct way, as they are extremely delicate. I’ve seen people break them by twisting or pulling too hard

Jon Ridley -

Wish that there was a complete photo of the bottom cover removed.

jman - Contestar

I’m rebuilding one of these with a new logic board, but the keyboard isn’t working. Can someone point me to where the keyboard is connected?

tencentcat - Contestar

Did you ever find where it’s connected? I have the exact same problem?

JP Hansen -

I love these black PCB’s. That looks so expensive and dope!

Adam Siekierski - Contestar

@jeffsu you saved my day and a macbook pro.. The cable was not mounted right.. and all are working now.. THX!!

JP Hansen - Contestar

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